Knock out rules in D&D have always been stinky and I don't really know how to fix that. At my table, if a person takes any hit point damage from nonlethal sources and then goes to 0 or less, he's actually knocked out instead of made to be dead. But that's really not a great solution for when someone "gets the drop on ya" or whatever and just konks you on the head.
Not that it comes up a lot but I'd hate for some of my players to not try it because the rules are written in a stinky way.
SO here is one solution I saw on MeWe but I can't remember to whom I should attribute it.
The Saps and Blackjacks Rule
On a surprise attack or a backstab attempt from behind with a sap or blackjack or improvised blunt weapon (referee's discretion), the target takes 1d6 nonlethal HP and throws a Save versus Paralyzation. If the target fails the save, he is knocked out for 1d6 Turns (10-60 minutes.)
Having significantly nonhuman physiology (like no head or no bones), being 6 HD or greater, or wearing a helmet will negate the necessity for this save.
1. Who wrote this rule? I honestly can't remember.
2. What do you think about it?
Interesting approach Scott. I guess the nonlethal d6 only really counts if the target successfully saves. Seems simple and elegant.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the vine Glenn. I saw the rule and thought about how to apply it to my game where all weapons do 1d6. This seems right. It’s not my rule but I don’t know who came up with it.
DeleteI just use the rule that when you bring somebody to 0hp, you can declare whatever you want, a kill being the default but if it’s reasonable to imagine, it works. No non-lethal damage by spells and ranged weapons, for example. And when players still want to do it then I tell them nobody can simply knock Conan out while he still has hp left.
ReplyDeleteThank you for stopping in, Alex! I like your restrictions. can you tell us, when does the attacker declare when the damage is legal or not? Prior to the attackor after or what?
DeleteI let players decide after the fact. This happens as part of the conversation. "All right, you kill it! Or did you want to take a prisoner?" (if they mentioned wanting to do this during the fight). "All right, that's a hit and that's all they had left in them. What do you want to do with them?"
DeleteThis is pretty similar to the rules for the blackjack in the companion set
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